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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9827897" data-attributes="member: 93670">Maybe maybe & ffs.With dragon born my go to is to point out that dragons have a pretty important role in the setting (nearly god;analog in some cases and how all of the lore next to their race entry is mostly fr-centric in problematic ways so it would be best if they do so just saying their PC is one of the lizardmen from qbarra who went through some kind of tribal ritual that mutated them a bit.   I've never heard a player say anything but "ok cool" and that avoids having a player where their PC later claims first hand knowledge of Argonnessen/past social interaction with dragons  later in a game where they spent months prior acting as a native of khorvaire.I've had players play a Goliath a couple times and we always just said "I'm from droaam", the phb Goliath lore was kicked to the curb.  Tbh my frustration with Goliath is more the fact that they should be size large and have mechanics/lore trying to draw on that but get to avoid all the downsides of being size L while keeping the benefit of being able to say "no I'm only size M" any time size could be a hassle to the PC.I've had at least one player play a tortle monk in one of my eberron games and think that they suggested "from droaam" while asking if they could.  I don't think I've ever seen a tortle who wasn't a monk across all of my open AL games (twice weekly at a busy flgs  for years), it's silly to pretend that tortle is any sort of deep  RoLePlAyInG choice.  I generally want my eberron games to have PCs from one of khorvaire's 5 nations and the default tortle island nonsense avoids both sides of being from this/some other nation of khorvaire on top of not being from the literal island chain nation either so it should be forgotten and something else should be worked out if a player wants one</blockquote>

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