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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9828485" data-attributes="member: 6790260">I mean I have seen multiple people on this very forum take the former stance. And I have been personally painted with that very specific brush you describe in your final sentence here. So...if you want to complain about catastrophizing, it would help if there were fewer people actually taking the stance that "rules have to be written assuming every player is a bad person and every GM is faultless." Because I have been told that. More than once. By people, not just on this forum or subforum, but people who are posting in this thread.I would love nothing more than this. I have consistently--in every single thread that has touched on this subject--spoken of consensus-building, of seeking common ground, of how it is so unbelievably rare to find an issue that truly cannot ever be resolved by talking it out, unless one or more people involved are participating in bad faith. I have said this many, many times.If what you want is me to agree with "consensus-building is almost always possible and most reasonable, good-faith participants can work something out", then you have it. Hands down, no question. That's been my position for literal years. It's a position which gets nothing but pushback from the people you claim are so willing to get along. I don't know what to say about that, other than that those people have point-blank told me they reject your position, while I embrace it, wholeheartedly.Perhaps so. Until I stop seeing GMs of 5e--an edition which vastly superpowers the GM and gives the players damn near nothing, the new 5.5e "we're all here to have fun" disclaimer aside--constantly complaining about "player entitlement", I'm not going to hold my breath.Entitled players exist. It'd be nice if GMs around here also recognized that a hell of a lot of entitled GMs exist, too. I've never seen it. Not once. It's always the players who are at fault for poisoning the faultless GM's perfect vision.Then, were it not a sin, I would envy you. My experiences with 5e have been, to say the least, very bad outside of my current two groups. My experiences of nearly every GM who toots the "GM empowerment" horn, and actually every GM who whines about "player entitlement", have been equally bad.</blockquote>

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