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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9828818" data-attributes="member: 93670">[USER=6906980]@AlViking[/USER] wrt your 1127 reply, I should have taken the time to find & link to the post so I could have been more clear, I'm literally the person who brought it up back in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-monsters-know-what-theyre-doing-are-unsure-on-5e24.716720/post-9827081" target="_blank">777</a> while talking about an actual gm<>player interaction of mine from years ago.  The question was more why those sort of suggestions seem to come exclusively from posters saying players should be expected to actively work with the gm and adapt their character to fit the campaign/setting while the other side of the discussion only brings up new trivially resolved scenarios that only require the player to work with the gm to adapt the character to the campaign/setting.You've endlessly advocated for players and shifted responsibility to the gm without limit throughout this thread...   I'm not aware of it.  Is there some inverted version of stormwind that I should be following as a GM where literally anything at all must be assumed to be roleplaying deserving of endlessly being cut some slack instead of Stormwind's idea that roleplaying and optimization are mutually exclusive??Going beyond the one AlViking  brought up in <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-monsters-know-what-theyre-doing-are-unsure-on-5e24.716720/post-9828652" target="_blank">1103</a>,  I'd like to introduce a new question for you or any of the folks outraged that a gm might be expected to walk or actively take steps to fit their character to the setting/campaign to answer.Why is the gm expected to automatically assume that a question like "<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/the-monsters-know-what-theyre-doing-are-unsure-on-5e24.716720/post-9827897" target="_blank">Could I play a Dragonborn, Goliath, or Tortle?</a>" Is carrying some deep unexpressed roleplaying chops beneath a statement or question that couldn't bother to even hint at it and then endlessly grill the player for a seed like being smitten by a character from kung fu panda; but the gm can not expect the player to be proactive in voicing anything beyond pure mechanical  "Could I play a Dragonborn, Goliath, or Tortle?"</blockquote>

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