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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gban007" data-source="post: 9829716" data-attributes="member: 56488">I think you are taking the most uncaritable reading of my posts possible.  As ultimately yes I have, as described, had this happen in games I've played in, with me ultimately stopping playing a character I liked because someone came in with a concept that clashed with mine after I had already been playing my character for some time.Yes, the individual concepts arent the issue. It is two people choosing to play concepts that clash, at least one of who isnt happy with the clash, and ultimately that player who brought in a character diametrically opposed to mine shouldn't have been able to bring that character in.The Tortle is hypothetical build on this- and I've seen clashing views as to whether they are common / readily available or not - same cpuld be true with Orc, Elf, Human, anything.  My point is a player bringing a character into play into an existing campaign needs to consider what other characters are already in play.</blockquote>