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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9829772" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Greyhawk is far more kitchen sink than FR and official rules for it included Barsoom encounter tables and everyone's favourite crashed spaceship up in the Barrier Mountains. The kitchen sink is in this game's blood. Even Ravenloft is just a kitchen sink of horror pastiches and references to 70s horror movies</p><p></p><p></p><p>Well we're not talking 'obscure supplement' here, we're talking 'Widely publicised charity product that was widely adopted in the D&D community' with tortles.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You don't even have orcs as a playable race. Colour me incredibly suspicious that your game has any freedom at all</p><p></p><p>Could I play Grasok Wolfbrother, rather nice orc ranger who likes, or are orcs 'always evil' in your campaign world despite that never having been a thing in D&D rules and screw you for wanting to play as what's been a stock race in "Has annihilated every single D&D game in sales and its expansion releases can be tracked by downturns in FRGS product sales" World of Warcraft or "A single game in this franchise has outsold every D&D game combined" Skyrim, both for over 20 years?</p><p></p><p>Heck. Could I play an expy of Skyrim's most famous orc, <a href="https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Urag_gro-Shub" target="_blank">Urag</a>? Just go full grumpy orc wizard who wants to collect and preserve books because everyone around him is an idiot who will get them damaged? If half orcs are playable, full orcs should be playable just the same.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Humans have anthropomorphised animals for most of their history. This is just, what we do. The stereotypes and ideas of the creature in human form. This is part of human nature</p><p></p><p>That is the worst idea of it. "Want to play as this option? naughty word you, here's a GP cost so you can only get half way there" rather than allow any expansion on your setting beyond its absolute milquetoast options offered.</p><p></p><p>90% of DMs will allow tortles in 5E so, yeah, they will find another DM. Easily.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9829772, member: 6801776"] Greyhawk is far more kitchen sink than FR and official rules for it included Barsoom encounter tables and everyone's favourite crashed spaceship up in the Barrier Mountains. The kitchen sink is in this game's blood. Even Ravenloft is just a kitchen sink of horror pastiches and references to 70s horror movies Well we're not talking 'obscure supplement' here, we're talking 'Widely publicised charity product that was widely adopted in the D&D community' with tortles. You don't even have orcs as a playable race. Colour me incredibly suspicious that your game has any freedom at all Could I play Grasok Wolfbrother, rather nice orc ranger who likes, or are orcs 'always evil' in your campaign world despite that never having been a thing in D&D rules and screw you for wanting to play as what's been a stock race in "Has annihilated every single D&D game in sales and its expansion releases can be tracked by downturns in FRGS product sales" World of Warcraft or "A single game in this franchise has outsold every D&D game combined" Skyrim, both for over 20 years? Heck. Could I play an expy of Skyrim's most famous orc, [URL='https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Urag_gro-Shub']Urag[/URL]? Just go full grumpy orc wizard who wants to collect and preserve books because everyone around him is an idiot who will get them damaged? If half orcs are playable, full orcs should be playable just the same. Humans have anthropomorphised animals for most of their history. This is just, what we do. The stereotypes and ideas of the creature in human form. This is part of human nature That is the worst idea of it. "Want to play as this option? naughty word you, here's a GP cost so you can only get half way there" rather than allow any expansion on your setting beyond its absolute milquetoast options offered. 90% of DMs will allow tortles in 5E so, yeah, they will find another DM. Easily. [/QUOTE]
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