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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9831960" data-attributes="member: 93670">Yes kinda... but still no. It is (imo) world building for the players.Players can not engage in world building during character creation absent a system like the <a href="https://www.dragon-quill.net/dresden-files-rpg-part-2-city-creation/" target="_blank">city & character creation in dfrpg</a>, but players making changes in the world and building new things through their in game actions is still going to involve quite a bit of world building because doing so typically (ime) involves the GM managing NPCs/NPC factions and creating adventures for the players to play though.  The difference is that the gm running and creating the shell for those NPCs/adventures doesn't know what the result will look like until the players have had their chance to interact with the GM's still wet paint.By extension, any player insisting on the world build benefits of a system like dfrpg's city & character creation during d&d character creation is wildly off base</blockquote>