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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 9832072" data-attributes="member: 23751">Nobody ever said that was where The DM's fun comes from.  I don't know where you are getting that.Fun has a lot to do with it.  If I get a lot of enjoyment in world building and creating settings where the economics, special aspects(limitations, additions, changes, etc), social dynamics and more are all complex and detailed out, changing an aspect of that could ruin the whole thing.  It's like pulling the wrong block out of a Jenga structure.  It can have a profoundly negative impact on the DM's enjoyment.It really depends on the DM and how much time and detail has gone into the creation of the setting.Yeah.  I'm not the one saying it's binary.  And I'm saying compromise can often be had.  I'm also saying that the player's fun is not more important than the DM's fun, and vice versa.I've never met a person who can only enjoy playing tortles, so why, if fun is equally important to both sides, would a player insist on negatively impacting the DM's fun by playing a tortle when he could just make another character and still have fun.  I've also never met a DM who can only have fun building one specific setting from the ground up.Having to rebuild a good chunk of or maybe even the whole campaign setting over the inclusion of a tortle, though, is a hell of a lot more work and time than changing a race or even rebuilding an entire character. I'd never insist a DM do that when I can just pull out one of the many character concepts I've been wanting to play.</blockquote>

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