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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 9832603" data-attributes="member: 18182">To respond to your struck text . . . yes.That's where we started.Nobody explicitly stated, "My world is pretty standard, it's just like the Realms, but different . . ." But they failed to communicate that their world is more narrow, more specific, more different . . . a Brancalonia or Household or homebrew that truly is non-standard. They came out swinging against "entitled players" ruining the fun of the DM. Again, later, the goal posts shifted in the ridiculous need to prove others unreasonable.Now, of course, some of these folks likely DO or at least HAVE run very specific, narrow campaigns . . . but unless you communicate that clearly in discussion, and more importantly your players, it's reasonable to assume you are playing standard, default, PHB D&D.And even up until this page on the thread (at least from posts I can see) . . . some folks still haven't really convinced me their homebrew campaigns are really all that far from standard D&D, other than a list of restrictions. And many of the examples used in argument are purposefully hyperbolic examples rather than common examples of play.If you are running a pretty standard D&D campaign and you're ready to shoot down all sorts of "weird" player options . . . I'm going to pass on your game. I hope you and your players have fun, but I had too much of that in the 80s and 90s.If you are trying for something very specific and you sell me on how much fun we'll have . . . I hope you'll still be open-minded towards player character concepts, but having a restricted list makes more sense. But if we start playing and I realize your world or campaign really only differs in that there are no tortles (for example) . . . sigh, I'll probably bail. Not because I need tortles, but because I am so tired of that style of running games.</blockquote>

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