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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9834790" data-attributes="member: 6790260">You are. I've said so. Numerous times.But other people are too. Which means sometimes, again SOMEtimes, you'll have to choose not to do the thing that makes you absolutely 100% maxed-out blissfully happy, in order to give one or more other people what they want.You keep doing this, by the way. You keep presenting my position as "Oh so I'm never allowed to have any fun at all" when I've explicitly rejected that. Which is precisely what makes it a hard binary: either you always get everything you want and the other players' fun is always secondary, or the players get everything they want and your fun is always abandoned. There are other paths, and one of them is "EVERY person SOMETIMES has to give up something they find absolute maximum fun, in order for the group to overall have the most fun they could."That's the actual middle ground here. Sometimes the player gives up something they would be blissed out by. And, yes, sometimes that will mean the person who wants to play a tortle or whatever is the one up. This time. The problem is that you've made clear that on every place where you would prefer X over anything that isn't X, your way will always be taken. There is no exception. There is no deviation. 100% of your bright lines will always be respected. Any time any player bright line is something you don't want, well, sucks to be them! That's the problem here. It is all take and no give.</blockquote>

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