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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 8903300" data-attributes="member: 5142">Hello. As [USER=86653]@overgeeked[/USER] said, there have been some of us (e.g., Campbell, overgeeked, hawkeyefan, and more) discussing the potential pitfalls of having a 800 lb. gorilla dominate the market and its effects on 3pp and non-D&amp;D games for years now. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤷‍♂️" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f937-2642.png" title="Man shrugging&nbsp; &nbsp; :man_shrugging:" data-shortname=":man_shrugging:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> I was told about WotC's market dominance that <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/doctors-daleks-cubicle-7-brings-doctor-who-to-d-d-5e.686152/page-5#post-8551346" target="_blank">&quot;a rising tide lifts all boats.&quot;</a> It's a lovely-sounding aphorism, to which other critics of the saying have also noted that &quot;the rising tide will lift some boats, but others will run aground&quot; and &quot;the rising tide just seems to lift yachts.&quot; As I said then, it seems like blind faith in trickle-down economics hiding behind an aphorism. But I will fully admit that a lot of these discussions were perceived as being on the fringes of the hobby: i.e., these fringe discussions were just fans of other non-D&amp;D games who were bitter and jealous of 5e D&amp;D's popularity. Usually the threads promoting other TTRPGs are in the General Subforum. There have been a few threads in the 5e Forum where people talked about alternatives. I have been contemplating creating a thread where people can constructively talk about the strengths and weaknesses of other systems for people who like 5e D&amp;D. But I have also been worried whether such a thread would step on the toes of [USER=6871653]@Tales and Chronicles[/USER]'s <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/non-ogl-alternative-to-d-d.694201/page-7#post-8897208" target="_blank">thread here</a> for discussing non-OGL alternatives to 5e.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 8903300, member: 5142"] Hello. As [USER=86653]@overgeeked[/USER] said, there have been some of us (e.g., Campbell, overgeeked, hawkeyefan, and more) discussing the potential pitfalls of having a 800 lb. gorilla dominate the market and its effects on 3pp and non-D&D games for years now. 🤷‍♂️ I was told about WotC's market dominance that [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/doctors-daleks-cubicle-7-brings-doctor-who-to-d-d-5e.686152/page-5#post-8551346']"a rising tide lifts all boats."[/URL] It's a lovely-sounding aphorism, to which other critics of the saying have also noted that "the rising tide will lift some boats, but others will run aground" and "the rising tide just seems to lift yachts." As I said then, it seems like blind faith in trickle-down economics hiding behind an aphorism. But I will fully admit that a lot of these discussions were perceived as being on the fringes of the hobby: i.e., these fringe discussions were just fans of other non-D&D games who were bitter and jealous of 5e D&D's popularity. Usually the threads promoting other TTRPGs are in the General Subforum. There have been a few threads in the 5e Forum where people talked about alternatives. I have been contemplating creating a thread where people can constructively talk about the strengths and weaknesses of other systems for people who like 5e D&D. But I have also been worried whether such a thread would step on the toes of [USER=6871653]@Tales and Chronicles[/USER]'s [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/non-ogl-alternative-to-d-d.694201/page-7#post-8897208']thread here[/URL] for discussing non-OGL alternatives to 5e. [/QUOTE]

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