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<blockquote data-quote="Herzog" data-source="post: 5605617" data-attributes="member: 25696"><p>[MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION]:</p><p> </p><p>First off, 'modern' has nothing to do with this. Yes, historically, slavery (or indentured servitude) was an accepted part of society. That does NOT mean, however, that everyone was happy about it. (as a sidenote, I should mention the various characters mainly wanted to get the Wizard to admit he was enforcing some kind of slavery to his familiar, not actually stop doing it <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p> </p><p>Then, to your points:</p><p>1) From the information the other characters had, there was no reason to believe the familiar entered voluntarily. Also, the circumstances were a bit different from a 'normal' ritual (the Mephit was actually summoned), so some kind of forced start of the process could be deduced.</p><p>2) There was no mention of any exchange. As far as the Wizard and Familiar are concerned, they still have to negotiate the contract..... Except the Wizard thinks it's a done deal, and the Familiar just wants to create some chaos......</p><p>3) As there is currently no 'contract' to speak off, this doesn't come into play. However, it sounds good!</p><p>4) I'm not sure where you're going with this. Is this in relation to the 'slavery' aspect? </p><p> </p><p>All in all, you've given me something to think about. I think I'll introduce the concept of the actual contract next session......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herzog, post: 5605617, member: 25696"] [MENTION=4937]Celebrim[/MENTION]: First off, 'modern' has nothing to do with this. Yes, historically, slavery (or indentured servitude) was an accepted part of society. That does NOT mean, however, that everyone was happy about it. (as a sidenote, I should mention the various characters mainly wanted to get the Wizard to admit he was enforcing some kind of slavery to his familiar, not actually stop doing it :) ) Then, to your points: 1) From the information the other characters had, there was no reason to believe the familiar entered voluntarily. Also, the circumstances were a bit different from a 'normal' ritual (the Mephit was actually summoned), so some kind of forced start of the process could be deduced. 2) There was no mention of any exchange. As far as the Wizard and Familiar are concerned, they still have to negotiate the contract..... Except the Wizard thinks it's a done deal, and the Familiar just wants to create some chaos...... 3) As there is currently no 'contract' to speak off, this doesn't come into play. However, it sounds good! 4) I'm not sure where you're going with this. Is this in relation to the 'slavery' aspect? All in all, you've given me something to think about. I think I'll introduce the concept of the actual contract next session...... [/QUOTE]
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