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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5609754" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Indeed. Additionally, if we pursue this logic we note that only a LE spellcaster may have an Imp as a familiar, and only a LG spellcaster may have a Brownie as a familiar. If the relationship between the spellcaster and the familiar was one of unwilling bondage, then we would expect that there would in fact be no such restrictions. If the relastionship was one of master to slave, a LE spellcaster could presumably force a psuedodragon into bondage and obedience if they desired. The very fact that they cannot indicates that the familiar only enters the relationship if it is willing to do so, and indeed only if it prefers to do so. </p><p></p><p>This is not to say that the relationship between master and familiar is necessarily entirely without acrimony or drama. In particular, I would expect CN familiars to remain quite willful and independent indeed; indeed, the relationship probably hinges on the expectation that the master - being CN himself - admires the familiars willfulness, independance and even cockiness on some level and tolerates it most of the time. The CN familiar probably only agrees to the relationship because it knows that the master is the sort who will tolerate being teased, and likewise because it accepts the master's traits like willfulness, indenpendence, moodiness and occasional surliness as being fundamental rights of every being and something attractive and even admirable. I would imagine that in the mind of the CN familiar, there is much less focus on the contractual nature of the relationship as their is on the intimate nature of the relationship. The CN familiar thinks to itself that it obeys not because its forced to by a legal contract that it has entered into, but because it wants to obey because the master is so attractive and engenders such pleasant feelings in the familiar. In other words, to the extent that the CN being can feel these things, it believes it is in love with the master. </p><p></p><p>Familiars of other alignments would of course focus on other aspects of the relationship; as an obvious example the LN familiar would probably be almost the opposite of the above, believing i'ts feelings (if it has any, which it might not) are wholly irrelevant in the relationship compared to the huge substantial fact of its duty to its master.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5609754, member: 4937"] Indeed. Additionally, if we pursue this logic we note that only a LE spellcaster may have an Imp as a familiar, and only a LG spellcaster may have a Brownie as a familiar. If the relationship between the spellcaster and the familiar was one of unwilling bondage, then we would expect that there would in fact be no such restrictions. If the relastionship was one of master to slave, a LE spellcaster could presumably force a psuedodragon into bondage and obedience if they desired. The very fact that they cannot indicates that the familiar only enters the relationship if it is willing to do so, and indeed only if it prefers to do so. This is not to say that the relationship between master and familiar is necessarily entirely without acrimony or drama. In particular, I would expect CN familiars to remain quite willful and independent indeed; indeed, the relationship probably hinges on the expectation that the master - being CN himself - admires the familiars willfulness, independance and even cockiness on some level and tolerates it most of the time. The CN familiar probably only agrees to the relationship because it knows that the master is the sort who will tolerate being teased, and likewise because it accepts the master's traits like willfulness, indenpendence, moodiness and occasional surliness as being fundamental rights of every being and something attractive and even admirable. I would imagine that in the mind of the CN familiar, there is much less focus on the contractual nature of the relationship as their is on the intimate nature of the relationship. The CN familiar thinks to itself that it obeys not because its forced to by a legal contract that it has entered into, but because it wants to obey because the master is so attractive and engenders such pleasant feelings in the familiar. In other words, to the extent that the CN being can feel these things, it believes it is in love with the master. Familiars of other alignments would of course focus on other aspects of the relationship; as an obvious example the LN familiar would probably be almost the opposite of the above, believing i'ts feelings (if it has any, which it might not) are wholly irrelevant in the relationship compared to the huge substantial fact of its duty to its master. [/QUOTE]
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