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The more I think about it, the least I like class groups.
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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 8791963" data-attributes="member: 7006"><p>This is exactly why WotC doesn't get too far in the weeds over it when they design this stuff. Because every person has a different list of what they think is 100% required for X thing in the game, and WotC knows that it is literally impossible to please everyone. And it isn't just the Sorcerer... if we take a look at all the old Psion and Warlord threads, every person in there had their idiosyncratic list of things a potential new Psion or Warlord class HAD to have to be a Psion or Warlord... and none of the lists ever really matched up.</p><p></p><p>It's why my skipping record response is always "If you wait for WotC to publish what you want you'll never be happy... just use house rules to truly get what you want." But no one seems to want to accept that. Which I kind of understand <em>right now</em>, during a playtest... because of course there is still time to see our hopes and dreams actually come to some sort of fruition if we can make the proper arguments and get enough people to respond to the surveys the same way... but even then the odds are 1000s to 1 that every single thing we think is "required" for X class is going to be agreed upon <em>and</em> responded upon by every survey respondent... and that WotC will actually then decide to include it. Which is why I still think everyone should maintain a healthy amount of expected and planned for disappointment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 8791963, member: 7006"] This is exactly why WotC doesn't get too far in the weeds over it when they design this stuff. Because every person has a different list of what they think is 100% required for X thing in the game, and WotC knows that it is literally impossible to please everyone. And it isn't just the Sorcerer... if we take a look at all the old Psion and Warlord threads, every person in there had their idiosyncratic list of things a potential new Psion or Warlord class HAD to have to be a Psion or Warlord... and none of the lists ever really matched up. It's why my skipping record response is always "If you wait for WotC to publish what you want you'll never be happy... just use house rules to truly get what you want." But no one seems to want to accept that. Which I kind of understand [I]right now[/I], during a playtest... because of course there is still time to see our hopes and dreams actually come to some sort of fruition if we can make the proper arguments and get enough people to respond to the surveys the same way... but even then the odds are 1000s to 1 that every single thing we think is "required" for X class is going to be agreed upon [I]and[/I] responded upon by every survey respondent... and that WotC will actually then decide to include it. Which is why I still think everyone should maintain a healthy amount of expected and planned for disappointment. [/QUOTE]
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