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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chowder" data-source="post: 4109408" data-attributes="member: 56308">Hello.In the PDF compiled in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=221405" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=221405</a> (which is fantastic, by the way), in the "Saving Throw" section, it states that a creature affected by more than one effect that allows a save may attempt a saving throw against each such effect at the end of its turn.  It also states that if a creature rolls a 20 on a saving throw, all effects that allow a save will end.  If I understand that correctly, the more effects on a creature, the greater the number of saving throw rolls that creature gets, and the more chances to roll a 20.  Suppose a group of 5 PCs all cast spells on a creature, and all of those spells impart effects that allow a save.  This means that the creature will get 5 chances to roll a 20, which means there's a 22.6% chance that they'll roll a 20 at least once, and thereby remove all 5 effects.  This seems pretty high.In an extreme example, suppose 15 enemy spellcasters do the same thing to a PC.  The chance that a PC rolls a 20 at least once on his 15 saving throws is 53.7%.  It might actually be better for the enemy spellcasters to cast fewer spells on the PC, and have some of the enemy spellcasters sit the combat out!Am I misunderstanding how this works?  -Chowder</blockquote>