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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3045185" data-attributes="member: 6562">It has the 3rd level of Fighter, which everyone knows is a VERY BAD LEVEL. Don't compare turds to donuts. This is a strawman argument if I ever saw one -- in fact, every argument that compares a straight Fighter to pretty much anything is borderline strawman.Let's look at a Rogue 4 vs. your mix.Rogue 4 gets:&nbsp;+ Uncanny Dodge&nbsp;+ Lots of skill points (in a consistant skill list)&nbsp;+ Evasion&nbsp;+ 1d6 Sneak AttackLet's look at a Barb 4:&nbsp;+ 1 Rage (that's DOUBLE THE RAGE!!! GRAAAAAH!!!)&nbsp;+ Uncanny Dodge&nbsp;+ More HPLet's look at a Ranger 4:&nbsp;+ Spellcasting&nbsp;+ Combat Style&nbsp;+ More skill points&nbsp;+ Animal Companion... so the others aren't all that weak. It's the Ftr 4 that's clouding your vision. Just ignore all the levels of Fighter after 2. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3045185, member: 6562"] It has the 3rd level of Fighter, which everyone knows is a VERY BAD LEVEL. Don't compare turds to donuts. This is a strawman argument if I ever saw one -- in fact, every argument that compares a straight Fighter to pretty much anything is borderline strawman. Let's look at a Rogue 4 vs. your mix. Rogue 4 gets: + Uncanny Dodge + Lots of skill points (in a consistant skill list) + Evasion + 1d6 Sneak Attack Let's look at a Barb 4: + 1 Rage (that's DOUBLE THE RAGE!!! GRAAAAAH!!!) + Uncanny Dodge + More HP Let's look at a Ranger 4: + Spellcasting + Combat Style + More skill points + Animal Companion ... so the others aren't all that weak. It's the Ftr 4 that's clouding your vision. Just ignore all the levels of Fighter after 2. ;) Cheers, -- N [/QUOTE]

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