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<blockquote data-quote="Raduin711" data-source="post: 6330761" data-attributes="member: 15303">*Shrug*While we don't get a whole lot of detail about magic, that little blurb doesn't upset me much. It was something that kind of went without explanation in previous editions, and I don't see it having much of an impact over the mechanics of magic. It does kind of give you a starting point for adventures about magic itself.I agree. While I support a DM to do what he likes at his home table, I don't really need Draconian planar travelers in my FR game. But for some, this could be an intriguing idea. Though I wouldn't want it &quot;cannon.&quot;I have to disagree with you there. If the PHB were (as I am sure it will) provide some spell to travel the planes, or magic items that can do it, then it needs to at least say (in one of the core books) what the planes ARE. While the idea that angels, demons and the like sharing the same earthly sphere with the rest is an interesting one... or even having it be unknown is interesting, I still feel that as a default assumption, it would only result in confusion. I know sacred cows are a harsh thing to defend here, but... the planes have been a part of D&amp;D for a long time now. Planescape was simply a refinement of the planar stuff that had already been part of D&amp;D. I don't think it's presence as a &quot;default&quot; invalidates the planar details of all of the individual campaign settings, unless WOTC chooses to do so, which I hope they don't. But I do think they need to give us more than a blank line with a question mark on it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raduin711, post: 6330761, member: 15303"] *Shrug* While we don't get a whole lot of detail about magic, that little blurb doesn't upset me much. It was something that kind of went without explanation in previous editions, and I don't see it having much of an impact over the mechanics of magic. It does kind of give you a starting point for adventures about magic itself. I agree. While I support a DM to do what he likes at his home table, I don't really need Draconian planar travelers in my FR game. But for some, this could be an intriguing idea. Though I wouldn't want it "cannon." I have to disagree with you there. If the PHB were (as I am sure it will) provide some spell to travel the planes, or magic items that can do it, then it needs to at least say (in one of the core books) what the planes ARE. While the idea that angels, demons and the like sharing the same earthly sphere with the rest is an interesting one... or even having it be unknown is interesting, I still feel that as a default assumption, it would only result in confusion. I know sacred cows are a harsh thing to defend here, but... the planes have been a part of D&D for a long time now. Planescape was simply a refinement of the planar stuff that had already been part of D&D. I don't think it's presence as a "default" invalidates the planar details of all of the individual campaign settings, unless WOTC chooses to do so, which I hope they don't. But I do think they need to give us more than a blank line with a question mark on it. [/QUOTE]

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