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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6380380" data-attributes="member: 2067">Two points.First, The Great Wheel of Greyhawk and The Planescape Setting are not the same thing. The latter uses the former, but the former also exists without the latter. And you can probably have the latter without the former. So they haven't been the same thing always. In fact, the only e in which they were sort of the same thing was 2e, and that was only true after the Planescape setting got published. To a certain extent in 3e as well, though it was much more The Great Wheel and much less The Planescape Setting (aside from a few faction-based locations scattered around the Manual of the Planes and such). Campaign material bled into the core rulebooks, but it was Greyhawk campaign material, which is not the same thing as Planescape.The second point is that while campaign material has always bled into the core books, it has never actually been fully welcome there. D&amp;D has never been about Greyhawk or FR or any one particular setting in practice, it's always been about multiple settings, and that should include multiple cosmologies.People got their own preferences. Not sharing them doesn't mean there's not good reasons for 'em.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6380380, member: 2067"] Two points. First, The Great Wheel of Greyhawk and The Planescape Setting are not the same thing. The latter uses the former, but the former also exists without the latter. And you can probably have the latter without the former. So they haven't been the same thing always. In fact, the only e in which they were sort of the same thing was 2e, and that was only true after the Planescape setting got published. To a certain extent in 3e as well, though it was much more The Great Wheel and much less The Planescape Setting (aside from a few faction-based locations scattered around the Manual of the Planes and such). Campaign material bled into the core rulebooks, but it was [I]Greyhawk[/I] campaign material, which is not the same thing as Planescape. The second point is that while campaign material has always bled into the core books, it has never actually been fully welcome there. D&D has never been about Greyhawk or FR or any one particular setting in practice, it's always been about multiple settings, and that should include multiple cosmologies. People got their own preferences. Not sharing them doesn't mean there's not good reasons for 'em. [/QUOTE]

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