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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6389295" data-attributes="member: 22779">By the same token, I played 3e mostly with the SRD and so, no, there was no Melf or Boccob or Ehlonna.&nbsp; I never even really noticed that the names had been removed, since no one ever cared.&nbsp; A couple of proper nouns that have no further references don't really have much of an effect on world building.Look, as far as hating Planescape, that's gotten blown way out of proportion.&nbsp; It's not that I hate Planescape.&nbsp; Well, sure, I'm no fan, but, that's not the point.&nbsp; It's that Planescape occupies a privileged position where changes cannot be made.&nbsp; I mean, look at the other Meta-setting, Spelljammer.&nbsp; Spelljammer has all sorts of very specific elements that relate to all sorts of iconic monsters - beholders, githyanki, etc.&nbsp; Yet, all the Spelljammer stuff is entirely self contained and completely divorced from core material.&nbsp; Since Spelljammer is supposed to be just as &quot;core&quot; as Planescape - all the SJ elements are meant to be universal to all D&amp;D settings - why is it perfectly acceptable to completely ignore SJ?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6389295, member: 22779"] By the same token, I played 3e mostly with the SRD and so, no, there was no Melf or Boccob or Ehlonna. I never even really noticed that the names had been removed, since no one ever cared. A couple of proper nouns that have no further references don't really have much of an effect on world building. Look, as far as hating Planescape, that's gotten blown way out of proportion. It's not that I hate Planescape. Well, sure, I'm no fan, but, that's not the point. It's that Planescape occupies a privileged position where changes cannot be made. I mean, look at the other Meta-setting, Spelljammer. Spelljammer has all sorts of very specific elements that relate to all sorts of iconic monsters - beholders, githyanki, etc. Yet, all the Spelljammer stuff is entirely self contained and completely divorced from core material. Since Spelljammer is supposed to be just as "core" as Planescape - all the SJ elements are meant to be universal to all D&D settings - why is it perfectly acceptable to completely ignore SJ? [/QUOTE]

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