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<blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 6397714" data-attributes="member: 5142">I much prefer comparing typical to typical, as any setting at its 'best' only comes in brief glimpses, whereas a setting at its typical provides a more realistic expectation. Wanting to compare a setting at its best seems to result in perpetually moving the goalposts. &quot;Yes, but if you had a better DM/adventure/campaign/etc., then you would have experienced X, Y, and Z.&quot; For most people, I would wager, Planescape at its best (and most familiar) equates to Planescape: Torment even more so than the tabletop modules themselves. Now it seems to me that with Planescape, even for all the mutability that people claim exists among the planes, fiends, and automobiles, the planes still remain mostly as they are. So too exists the Lady of Pain. So too exist the Factions. So too exists the City of Doors as it continues to operate as the center of universe. The Blood War persists. Sure, such things could be said for other settings too, but often the tension is on a much smaller scale with the effects being more apparent on the ground-level: e.g. the threat of a Dragon King in Athas or renewed war breaking out among the Five Kingdoms of Eberron.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldarc, post: 6397714, member: 5142"] I much prefer comparing typical to typical, as any setting at its 'best' only comes in brief glimpses, whereas a setting at its typical provides a more realistic expectation. Wanting to compare a setting at its best seems to result in perpetually moving the goalposts. "Yes, but if you had a better DM/adventure/campaign/etc., then you would have experienced X, Y, and Z." For most people, I would wager, Planescape at its best (and most familiar) equates to [I]Planescape: Torment[/I] even more so than the tabletop modules themselves. Now it seems to me that with Planescape, even for all the mutability that people claim exists among the planes, fiends, and automobiles, the planes still remain mostly as they are. So too exists the Lady of Pain. So too exist the Factions. So too exists the City of Doors as it continues to operate as the center of universe. The Blood War persists. Sure, such things could be said for other settings too, but often the tension is on a much smaller scale with the effects being more apparent on the ground-level: e.g. the threat of a Dragon King in Athas or renewed war breaking out among the Five Kingdoms of Eberron. [/QUOTE]

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