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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 6401260" data-attributes="member: 48965">Ok, you were originally talking about Planescape, but even with the planes WotC changed them pretty drastically with 4e and there have been more minor changes throughout various editions... so it's hard for me to understand where you are coming from.&nbsp; I feel like you still aren't saying exactly what you want... Do you want an inconsistent planar structure across all sourcebooks, adventures and campaign settings?&nbsp; Because that would be... confusing to say the least.&nbsp; Do you want a mutlitude of options every time something planar is in a sourcebook, adventure or campaign setting? Because then we drive up the word count... If you want examples and material to construct your own planar setting... well I know at least 3.x and 4e offered this in their planar books... so what exactly is the complaint?Well you do keep saying WotC doesn't make planar changes, of course it seems like as a business they should be listening the the majority(?) of their fanbase and what they want.&nbsp; That's just smart business...Ok, so you're speaking to planar resources across editions.&nbsp; I would argue that the planes have changed, though mostly in minor and gradual ways across editions with the most drastic exceptions being in BECMI and 4e (not really sure about OD&amp;D as I don't know what the planar structure was for it).&nbsp; The thing is WotC as a business needs to cater to what the majority of their fanbase wants.&nbsp; You talk about judging things on their own merit, but I disagree things are always judged on what came before and planar structure is no different.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I disagree here... I think most people judge the planes just like they judge anything else in a game with as much history (and editions) as D&amp;D... that's to say the &quot;do I like it better test&quot;.&nbsp; IMO, that is judging it on it's own merits and you seem to be mad that the majority are finding the drastic changes lacking. Not sure how to address this but I am glad the planes have moved more into sync with what I enjoy... There was a whole previous edition for those who wanted drastic changes... Now it's changed again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 6401260, member: 48965"] Ok, you were originally talking about Planescape, but even with the planes WotC changed them pretty drastically with 4e and there have been more minor changes throughout various editions... so it's hard for me to understand where you are coming from. I feel like you still aren't saying exactly what you want... Do you want an inconsistent planar structure across all sourcebooks, adventures and campaign settings? Because that would be... confusing to say the least. Do you want a mutlitude of options every time something planar is in a sourcebook, adventure or campaign setting? Because then we drive up the word count... If you want examples and material to construct your own planar setting... well I know at least 3.x and 4e offered this in their planar books... so what exactly is the complaint? Well you do keep saying WotC doesn't make planar changes, of course it seems like as a business they should be listening the the majority(?) of their fanbase and what they want. That's just smart business... Ok, so you're speaking to planar resources across editions. I would argue that the planes have changed, though mostly in minor and gradual ways across editions with the most drastic exceptions being in BECMI and 4e (not really sure about OD&D as I don't know what the planar structure was for it). The thing is WotC as a business needs to cater to what the majority of their fanbase wants. You talk about judging things on their own merit, but I disagree things are always judged on what came before and planar structure is no different. I disagree here... I think most people judge the planes just like they judge anything else in a game with as much history (and editions) as D&D... that's to say the "do I like it better test". IMO, that is judging it on it's own merits and you seem to be mad that the majority are finding the drastic changes lacking. Not sure how to address this but I am glad the planes have moved more into sync with what I enjoy... There was a whole previous edition for those who wanted drastic changes... Now it's changed again. [/QUOTE]

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