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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nivenus" data-source="post: 6402070" data-attributes="member: 71756">If they also ate high/gray elves lunch than yes. I honestly think the elf thing is a bigger deal than the cosmological stuff when it comes to eladrin.If they were called gray elves they wouldn't really be a difference race would they? They'd be elves (even if with different mechanics) and so what I said above about people being upset about splitting elves up wouldn't apply.And that was on purpose, because that's precisely what happened with tieflings. Tieflings went from a fairly generic idea (descendants of fiends) to a specific people with a specific heritage (the descendants of warlocks in an ancient kingdom who made a pact with Asmodeus and were punished for it with a tainted bloodline and a devilish appearance). The 4e origin for tieflings is actually a lot more specific than the 2e/3e one (which was actually left deliberately vague in 2e) and just about every core 4e book with tieflings mentions Bael Turath at some point or another.As I said earlier in response to the same question, one's a PC race, one's a minor monster race that disappears after a few levels. One's a sudden change from the existing archetype, one was developed over a course of decades.I'm actually more interested to hear what you have to say about WotC's specific policy statement about leaving the cosmology open to interpretation. I was under the impression that was something along the lines of what you wanted: the ability to pick and choose what parts of the cosmology you wanted to use?</blockquote>

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