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<blockquote data-quote="Viking Bastard" data-source="post: 6407146" data-attributes="member: 509">I didn't drop them, as this was PS, where they aren't objective. Which I think I and other posters keep trying to explain.&nbsp; PS makes a big deal out of Primers being wrong and pig-headed in their objective thinking.In PS, that it's all relative, is the point..EDIT: I think a large part of the cyclical nature of this discussion, is that you are arguing a problem with the 1e setup of the planes (which was, as previously stated, a compromise between Gygax's views and popular demand), while your dissenters are trying to explain it from the point of view of PS, which is not the same POV, despite being based on the already established planar framework.Now, I wouldn't be shocked if some of PS's relativistic philosophy is born from making sense of the GW, but it was also the zeitgeist of the time--Sandman and Mage et al.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Viking Bastard, post: 6407146, member: 509"] I didn't drop them, as this was PS, where they [i]aren't[/i] objective. Which I think I and other posters keep trying to explain. PS makes a big deal out of Primers being wrong and pig-headed in their objective thinking. In PS, that it's all relative, is the point. . EDIT: I think a large part of the cyclical nature of this discussion, is that you are arguing a problem with the 1e setup of the planes (which was, as previously stated, a compromise between Gygax's views and popular demand), while your dissenters are trying to explain it from the point of view of PS, which is not the same POV, despite being based on the already established planar framework. Now, I wouldn't be shocked if some of PS's relativistic philosophy is born from making sense of the GW, but it was also the zeitgeist of the time--Sandman and Mage et al. [/QUOTE]

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