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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aldarc" data-source="post: 6407906" data-attributes="member: 5142">I'll admit that I don't fully grasp the internal logic some have provided that LG/E or CG/E are somehow less good or evil than NG/E - the idea that Good/Evilness are somehow tempered in concentration by Law and Chaos - and its implications for the planes. What 'universal law' actively prevents the existence of a system/object/subject that's one hundred percent good and one hundred percent law? Are the Law/Chaos and Good/Evil axises independent of each other or not? If they are independent, then L(100)/G(100) should be hypothetically possible. If not, then we move to new planar quandaries. Do, therefore, Law/Chaos/Good/Evil exist as "meta-moral particles" that exist in a proportionally limited concentration within a given mass? The concentration of these "meta-moral particles" certainly do seem to cause interplanar shifts. (Plus, if they do exist as "particles" or real metaphysical forces, then that would certainly suggest an absolutist morality to the denial of naysayers.) So would a NG plane exist as one hundred percent good without any law/chaos particles or does it exist as a plane that's one hundred percent good and fifty percent law and fifty percent chaos? Wouldn't such a conservation of "meta-moral particles" within a given system suggest then the separate existence of hypothetical G(100) and N(L[25]-C[25])/G(50) planes? If it's possible for a plane to be devoid of L/C particles (or even statistically negligible degrees), then there could be a plane that is hypothetically G(75)/E(25) and E(75)/G(25), ignoring further complications of the presence or absence of the L/C dimensional axis. This also means that one could have a plane that is G(25)/E(25)/L(25)/C(25) that's fundamentally different from either a L(50)/C(50) plane or a G(50)/E(50) plane, as the foremost has the significant presence of alternative axis meta-moral particles absent from the latter two. Furthermore, in a related matter if we follow from the above, it does not seem that Planescape effectively shows how ideology really effects meaningful change. Woah, let me explain based on what is likely my flawed understanding of the planes. Neither planar cessation nor planar creation seem to happen, only the shifting of a subset of an infinite plane between pre-existing infinite planes. Ideology does not seem to create or destroy, only move things around, at least when it comes to the planes themselves though this often does hold true for the rise and fall of deities. This phenomenon seems to be the result of the the aforementioned conservation of planes and "meta-moral particles" that seems to operate within the planar framework. What does it even mean, ideologically, that a portion of an infinite plane becomes part of another infinite plane? How does this add any ideological weight or weight loss, as the case may be, to an already infinite plane? The infinite nature of the planes seemingly makes this all feel kinda pointless. This is part of the reason why I referred to this phenomenon in Planescape as having all the excitement of balancing numbers on accounting software.</blockquote>

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