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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6414151" data-attributes="member: 2067">I wouldn't really disagree. I'd even say that it's kind of the point. The setting pushes the idea of personal belief over external ideas of black-and-white. What belief about the multiverse leads to that action? Why does it make sense to someone to have that belief? What is the underlying thought that you're going to have to challenge? I feel like it's pretty clear that the Great Wheel as presented is one version of how one could map out the relationships between the planes. You can't walk from Arborea to Ysgard (both are infinite), so putting them next to each other on a map doesn't imply any physical, spatial relationship. If your characters wanted to travel from Arborea to Ysgard in play, it would be pretty much as hard as traveling from Arborea to The Paraelemental Plane of Ooze. They're not "next to" each other in any physical way. Projections are representations of an objective thing, but in PS, it's really hard to define the thing you're projecting in any objective way.   The thing I'd note is that, being infinite, no plane can be said to have any particular shape or border. You can say the world is an oblate spheroid because the world has boundaries and borders that give it a shape. We can go into space and measure it and get dimensions and see it from an "outside" perspective. The world is quantifiable, because it's bound. More or less. You move in a certain direction long enough and you will be outside of it. You can't say the same thing about, say, the Outlands. No matter how long you walk or fly or how many feet you teleport, you cannot move out of that plane. And when you're not on that plane, you can't see it, interact with it, or otherwise know of its traits. So there's no way to get physical information about the dimensions or spatial relationships between the Outlands and any other plane. The Great Wheel is an attempt to describe the bounds of the planes ideologically, but again, there's no true omniscient perspective here. The Wheel is explicitly mentioned in the Campaign Setting as being a map used by Guvners -- used by a group obsessed with cataloging and discovering underlying order. Of COURSE it looks like a harmonious ring of balance. Ask a Sensate to draw you a map of the multiverse and you're going to get a different map ("Here you'll see Sigil is next to Castle Greyhawk because a door from one lead me to the other. And I didn't draw Gehenna, but I've never once had any experience of Gehenna except what that yugoloth told me, and they are liars, so I don't really think there is such a thing."). And neither character in play is "privileged" in any way for their understanding of the shape of things.</blockquote>

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