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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6414583" data-attributes="member: 2067">I mean, no one in the real world has ever proposed rendering down 16 year olds as far as I know, but there are some real-world horrors or simple tragedies that someone somewhere thought they were on the side of moral good on for perpetrating. It's pretty trivial to find historical or even modern examples. So it's not always so obvious in the real world (even when it seems obvious to us here and now in retrospect), and PS typically plays in a space where it's not obvious, and then asks the PC's to decide. It plays in those places using D&D's alignment as a tool, showing where it's not obvious if an action is Good-as-defined-by-D&D or not, Evil-as-defined-by-D&D or not and inviting the PC's to figure out what they think about it. Again, where the comparison collapses is that no one can tell objectively if the Great Wheel is true or not in the setting. There is no way to confirm that Arborea is "next to" Ysgard. Being mapped that way has no bearing on the nature of the planes as being infinite spaces without borders. One is hard-pressed to argue that a map that shows them as both on opposite sides from each other (maybe that sensate's map, where Arborea was where she was born, and Ysgard is where she is now) is "wrong." The earth physically IS an oblate spheroid. Aborea isn't physically next to anything. It is infinite in all directions.  Fair point! I had been overlooking this bit of setting because I've never used the rule (it is complex and fiddly and kind of absurd), but as the setting was originally written, that certainly is a way to at least determine how "far" you are from a given plane, and a map of those might certainly produce a ring, and that sensate would be able to establish that her map isn't accurate as far as her magic trident is concerned. Which does certainly favor the Great Wheel (with the kind-of-minor caveat that a PC who changes the structure of the planes also changes what bonus their weapon has...?).To less favor the Great Wheel and to give more credence to the idea of the Center of All, I would gladly propose eliminating that rule. Would there be any case (aside from "Keep everything the same") for keeping it, I wonder? It always seemed to me to be one of those rules like "Drow equipment vanishes in sunlight" that was kind of designed around a paranoia of PC's getting their hands on treasure, but since I never used it, I might be missing some other benefit of it. Without it, would there be any other mechanical, in-setting reason to favor that map over some other? We might get rid of those, too. I prefer my PS more subjective than that!</blockquote>

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