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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5725955" data-attributes="member: 177">Evolving mindset of players - trying different things and discovering that some were just more fun for them.  It isn't "entitlement" to not want to have nothing useful to do if you didn't have just the right spells prepared beforehand, or had run out for the day.  Sure, high-level spellcasters were darned powerful, but it took a lot of play to get there.  Many campaigns didn't last that long.Yes, I know, several people will jump on me for saying that, claiming that they didn't have nothing to do, that they were creative, and planned ahead so they never ran out, or always had exactly the right spells, or were always having fun, even when spelled-out for the day.  Well, maybe they're just superior beings or something.  Such people can go off and feel smug - except that gaming has largely left them behind, and probably for good reason.I know a lot of people who didn't see low and mid-level spellcasters play out well.  One of the reasons why my group left of playing D&D for a while when Shadowrun came out was because a spellcaster in that system was more attractive - they were more likely to have something effective to do in more situations, instead of just waiting for the fighter-types to deal with things.Eh.  Everyone read the PHB.  There was no mystery to the magic used by PCs.</blockquote>