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<blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5350687" data-attributes="member: 59506"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p> </p><p>I don't even know where to start with this...other than all of this is just...wrong! Where did this stuff come from?!</p><p> </p><p>For the most part, I guess I'll just leave it with what Dausuul and Salamandyr said.</p><p> </p><p>Except to add that, although Durandal and Excalibur are purely <em>"fictional"</em> swords... Durandal was Rolands sword (most likely making it Carolingian - the <em>successors</em> of the Merovingians), but in legend was originally the sword of Hector of Troy (placing it in about the 12th century BC - almost 2000 years before the Marovingians). Excalibur was Celtic, and <em>predated</em> the Marovingians.</p><p> </p><p>And Bayard was a horse...<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'm cool with everything you said, except for a little about this. The sharpness of the blade came from a combination of using a higher carbon steel for the "edge" side of the blade (and a lower carbon steel for the spine, sandwiched around the "edge" steel, for flexibility), along with differentially tempering the blade. However, the different parts of the blade were not tempered for different times (which would be impossible since they are attached). They were tempered at different "temperatures" by using clay to insulate certain areas of the blade, and leaving the rest of the blade fully exposed to the heat.</p><p> </p><p>The curve is created with a combination of the initial forging process (forged into a specific curve), and the final quenching after tempering. The blade is taken straight from the oven (where it's being tempered) and dipped into a quenching tank at a specific angle. If done correctly, part of the blade cools faster than the rest (with that part contracting faster) and actually causes the blade to "warp" into the final desired curve. If the angle of the quenching is wrong, the blade can end up warped left or right rather than back to front, and ruin the blade.</p><p> </p><p>I've seen footage of this being done, and it's absolutely amazing to watch.</p><p> </p><p><img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Mahdi, post: 5350687, member: 59506"] :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :eek: I don't even know where to start with this...other than all of this is just...wrong! Where did this stuff come from?! For the most part, I guess I'll just leave it with what Dausuul and Salamandyr said. Except to add that, although Durandal and Excalibur are purely [I]"fictional"[/I] swords... Durandal was Rolands sword (most likely making it Carolingian - the [I]successors[/I] of the Merovingians), but in legend was originally the sword of Hector of Troy (placing it in about the 12th century BC - almost 2000 years before the Marovingians). Excalibur was Celtic, and [I]predated[/I] the Marovingians. And Bayard was a horse...:erm: I'm cool with everything you said, except for a little about this. The sharpness of the blade came from a combination of using a higher carbon steel for the "edge" side of the blade (and a lower carbon steel for the spine, sandwiched around the "edge" steel, for flexibility), along with differentially tempering the blade. However, the different parts of the blade were not tempered for different times (which would be impossible since they are attached). They were tempered at different "temperatures" by using clay to insulate certain areas of the blade, and leaving the rest of the blade fully exposed to the heat. The curve is created with a combination of the initial forging process (forged into a specific curve), and the final quenching after tempering. The blade is taken straight from the oven (where it's being tempered) and dipped into a quenching tank at a specific angle. If done correctly, part of the blade cools faster than the rest (with that part contracting faster) and actually causes the blade to "warp" into the final desired curve. If the angle of the quenching is wrong, the blade can end up warped left or right rather than back to front, and ruin the blade. I've seen footage of this being done, and it's absolutely amazing to watch. B-) [/QUOTE]
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