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<blockquote data-quote="Shadeydm" data-source="post: 3976556" data-attributes="member: 44243"><p>Sorry to disappear mid discussion yesterday but my group had a rare saturday game scheduled yesterday.</p><p></p><p>Anyways yes the crusader outheals the cleric for a variety of reasons including but not limited to his ability via crusader strike to heal at range while the cleric needs to move around the battlefield trying to avoid aoos and other combat hazards. Also by stance he is healing someone for 2 points on top of the crusader strike healing every few rounds. Further these abilities do not run out unlike the cleric's spells.</p><p></p><p>As far as out damaging the other melee classes and the wizard the crusader uses a Great Axe and every few rounds gets to add 2D6 dam via Foehammer.</p><p></p><p>Combine these factors with the crusaders ability to soak/delay 5 pts of damage every round and he is truely one of the most powerful and dynamic low level PCs I have ever witnessed.</p><p></p><p>Again I am not complaining nor are any of the other players. As the DM I showed the Bo9S to the player and told him I would allow him to make a Crusader because I wanted to observe some 4E mechanics first hand. The Crusader has allowed the PCs to turn the tide of battle on several occasions and has allowed the party to continue adventuring in situations where another party would have been forced to stop and rest so the healer could recover some spells.</p><p></p><p>From my perspective therefore the Crusader experiment has been win win in that we are all getting a sneak peek at some 4 E comcepts and the party's ability to heal and deal damage has been enhanced. But if I had to give an opinion right now at 3rd level I would absolutly say not balanced. Only time will tell if the gap closes with further advancement.</p><p></p><p>In yesterdays game we wrapped up a string of adventures and the group has just started the Barrow of the Forgotten King which seems like its going to be lots of fun!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again right now the PCs are still only 3rd level</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shadeydm, post: 3976556, member: 44243"] Sorry to disappear mid discussion yesterday but my group had a rare saturday game scheduled yesterday. Anyways yes the crusader outheals the cleric for a variety of reasons including but not limited to his ability via crusader strike to heal at range while the cleric needs to move around the battlefield trying to avoid aoos and other combat hazards. Also by stance he is healing someone for 2 points on top of the crusader strike healing every few rounds. Further these abilities do not run out unlike the cleric's spells. As far as out damaging the other melee classes and the wizard the crusader uses a Great Axe and every few rounds gets to add 2D6 dam via Foehammer. Combine these factors with the crusaders ability to soak/delay 5 pts of damage every round and he is truely one of the most powerful and dynamic low level PCs I have ever witnessed. Again I am not complaining nor are any of the other players. As the DM I showed the Bo9S to the player and told him I would allow him to make a Crusader because I wanted to observe some 4E mechanics first hand. The Crusader has allowed the PCs to turn the tide of battle on several occasions and has allowed the party to continue adventuring in situations where another party would have been forced to stop and rest so the healer could recover some spells. From my perspective therefore the Crusader experiment has been win win in that we are all getting a sneak peek at some 4 E comcepts and the party's ability to heal and deal damage has been enhanced. But if I had to give an opinion right now at 3rd level I would absolutly say not balanced. Only time will tell if the gap closes with further advancement. In yesterdays game we wrapped up a string of adventures and the group has just started the Barrow of the Forgotten King which seems like its going to be lots of fun! Again right now the PCs are still only 3rd level [/QUOTE]
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