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<blockquote data-quote="Zurai" data-source="post: 3977899" data-attributes="member: 52324"><p>Sorry, that Wilder combo (in addition to not being legal at level 7) is significantly weaker than a Warlock's eldritch blast. We'll bump it up to 9th since that's the first legal level.</p><p></p><p>1. 5d6 damage for the wilder vs 5d6 damage for the warlock. Point = Tie. Tiebreaker = Eldritch Essences to add debuffs or extra damage to the eldritch blast; Point = Warlock</p><p>2. Requires essentially a full-round action and a DC 20 concentration check every round vs requires a standard action. Point = Warlock</p><p>3. Affected by DR vs not affected by DR. Point = Warlock</p><p>4. Not affected by SR vs affected by SR. Point = Wilder (unless the Warlock uses Vitriolic Blast, but that's a Greater invocation and thus not usable at level 9)</p><p>5. Only affects a single target vs only affects a single target. Point = Tie. Tiebreaker = Blast Shapes to affect multiple targets; Point = Warlock</p><p>6. Usable ~80-90 times a day vs usable 14,400 times a day. Point = Warlock</p><p>7. 45' range vs 60' range. Point = Warlock (even more so with Eldritch Spear)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Frankly, your 'combo' requires 4 feats to use for a whopping 17.5 average damage at level 9. That's not even remotely close to powerful. A level 9 fighter will do nearly that much with just a <em>single swing</em> of his +2 greatsword and no feats (2d6+2 = 9 avg, +7 strength), and we all know how weak fighters are in 3E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zurai, post: 3977899, member: 52324"] Sorry, that Wilder combo (in addition to not being legal at level 7) is significantly weaker than a Warlock's eldritch blast. We'll bump it up to 9th since that's the first legal level. 1. 5d6 damage for the wilder vs 5d6 damage for the warlock. Point = Tie. Tiebreaker = Eldritch Essences to add debuffs or extra damage to the eldritch blast; Point = Warlock 2. Requires essentially a full-round action and a DC 20 concentration check every round vs requires a standard action. Point = Warlock 3. Affected by DR vs not affected by DR. Point = Warlock 4. Not affected by SR vs affected by SR. Point = Wilder (unless the Warlock uses Vitriolic Blast, but that's a Greater invocation and thus not usable at level 9) 5. Only affects a single target vs only affects a single target. Point = Tie. Tiebreaker = Blast Shapes to affect multiple targets; Point = Warlock 6. Usable ~80-90 times a day vs usable 14,400 times a day. Point = Warlock 7. 45' range vs 60' range. Point = Warlock (even more so with Eldritch Spear) Frankly, your 'combo' requires 4 feats to use for a whopping 17.5 average damage at level 9. That's not even remotely close to powerful. A level 9 fighter will do nearly that much with just a [i]single swing[/i] of his +2 greatsword and no feats (2d6+2 = 9 avg, +7 strength), and we all know how weak fighters are in 3E. [/QUOTE]
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