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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3984057" data-attributes="member: 158">I don't know if it "wins the thread", because I never said I was totally happy with the proliferation of magic items in D&D anyway. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> If he has to spend a spell to do it, that's one thing: it's one of his vaunted slots for things like magic missile, shield, etc. But if it's on a scroll he just made for 12 gold and a single XP,  or if he's got tons of scrolls to make up for his slots spent, then it is a little too much utility magic bang for the buck. There was a time when a wizard would rather french-kiss a mind flayer than try to make a scroll. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But the imbalance's solution, in my opinion, is not just "turn the non-magical guy loose with magic powers that you don't call magic." To me, it looks darned silly and throws the sense of believability out the window.What you call bending reality with his mind, I call bending reality with the D&D equivalent of Physics. What you call bending with his heart, I call phoning in to have someone more powerful do it for you. Just like in real life a person can't move a ten-ton block by hand, but requires physical principles or technology, in D&D a person can't high-jump a hut without turning to magic or magical beings. Until now, at least.</blockquote>

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