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<blockquote data-quote="molonel" data-source="post: 3392090" data-attributes="member: 10412">For the following reasons:1. Scrying allows a Will save.2. Not every foe my players face should be a high level wizard who knows their identities, and automatically scries them 24/7 to learn their plans.3. If #2 occurs, it becomes awfully difficult to explain why the aforementioned wizard doesn't just pull a Scry-port and wipe the party off the face of the planet.4. Detect Scry is also a 4th level spell.What a noble purpose. Good luck with that.Enemies who always perfectly know your plans and have perfectly laid counteroffensives are not using &quot;powerful magic.&quot; They are using a DM fiat that steps outside the possibilities of a simple 4th level spell.I had a DM try to pull that crap one time, as an excuse to always have perfectly prepared counterplans to everything we did. That is, until I started memorizing at least two Detect Scrying spells a day, and keeping a battery of Dispel Magics available.When that failed, my character would simply moon the scrying sensor or do other obscene things until it went away.It's a narrative crutch, and a poor one at that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="molonel, post: 3392090, member: 10412"] For the following reasons: 1. Scrying allows a Will save. 2. Not every foe my players face should be a high level wizard who knows their identities, and automatically scries them 24/7 to learn their plans. 3. If #2 occurs, it becomes awfully difficult to explain why the aforementioned wizard doesn't just pull a Scry-port and wipe the party off the face of the planet. 4. Detect Scry is also a 4th level spell. What a noble purpose. Good luck with that. Enemies who always perfectly know your plans and have perfectly laid counteroffensives are not using "powerful magic." They are using a DM fiat that steps outside the possibilities of a simple 4th level spell. I had a DM try to pull that crap one time, as an excuse to always have perfectly prepared counterplans to everything we did. That is, until I started memorizing at least two Detect Scrying spells a day, and keeping a battery of Dispel Magics available. When that failed, my character would simply moon the scrying sensor or do other obscene things until it went away. It's a narrative crutch, and a poor one at that. [/QUOTE]

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