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<blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 1765786" data-attributes="member: 18549"><p>I lean toward "lawful," although I see how you could make a case for chaos. Mr. Fighter has a very orderly way of life. He finds pedophiles and then he kills them. He lives by a code of ethics: pedo = kill. His code does not include "respect local authority," which is a wee bit on the chaotic side, but there's no indication of whether he's what you'd call a "team player" or a "lone wolf." He just has a set of principled beliefs (ie. pedophiles should be killed on discovery) that drive him more than other concerns like legal authority do.</p><p></p><p>This seems to me not to be a question about whether the fighter is lawful or chaotic. It seems to me to be a question about priority of rules. Do the rules that the fighter has chosen to live by determine his behaviour, or do the laws of the land he happens to be in at the moment determine his behaviour? It seems that if he's dedicated to following a code of ethics--maybe even sworn an oath to follow it, for the sake of argument--it would be more chaotic to set aside that code just because the locals don't agree with it. That's <em>circumstance</em>, and circumstance has no place in ideology. It certainly has no business interfering with an oath (regardless of how ill-advised the oath might have been considering these sorts of practical concerns).</p><p></p><p>So, if the fighter is slaying pedos because he likes to, it's probably chaotic. But if it's part of some code of ethics or code of behaviour that he has decided to follow, and that code trumps local laws in his opinion, then it's probably lawful behaviour.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lonely Tylenol, post: 1765786, member: 18549"] I lean toward "lawful," although I see how you could make a case for chaos. Mr. Fighter has a very orderly way of life. He finds pedophiles and then he kills them. He lives by a code of ethics: pedo = kill. His code does not include "respect local authority," which is a wee bit on the chaotic side, but there's no indication of whether he's what you'd call a "team player" or a "lone wolf." He just has a set of principled beliefs (ie. pedophiles should be killed on discovery) that drive him more than other concerns like legal authority do. This seems to me not to be a question about whether the fighter is lawful or chaotic. It seems to me to be a question about priority of rules. Do the rules that the fighter has chosen to live by determine his behaviour, or do the laws of the land he happens to be in at the moment determine his behaviour? It seems that if he's dedicated to following a code of ethics--maybe even sworn an oath to follow it, for the sake of argument--it would be more chaotic to set aside that code just because the locals don't agree with it. That's [i]circumstance[/i], and circumstance has no place in ideology. It certainly has no business interfering with an oath (regardless of how ill-advised the oath might have been considering these sorts of practical concerns). So, if the fighter is slaying pedos because he likes to, it's probably chaotic. But if it's part of some code of ethics or code of behaviour that he has decided to follow, and that code trumps local laws in his opinion, then it's probably lawful behaviour. [/QUOTE]
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