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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mr. Kaze" data-source="post: 1766486" data-attributes="member: 8848">Public executions are lawful, private executions are not.All of the murders were chaotic because the criminals, in every case, didn't view their own lives as forfeit to some random schmoe.  The last case is more lawful than the other cases, as the criminal was in fact a criminal with forfeit life -- as opposed to a cretinous pervert deserving of death out in the wildlands, but that's a different matter.Law exists -- the code exists -- to provide a standard that people can agree to.  If there's a law that says "Don't murder people," then I expect that people aren't going to come up and murder me in the same way that I'm not going to wander around murdering them.  Thus far it's worked out pretty well.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  So inasmuch as people don't expect to be murdered, murder is unlawful.  Inasmuch as they don't expect to be stolen from, stealing is unlawful.  Inasmuch as they don't expect to be accosted by dirty old men when they're 5... you get the picture.It's not enough to live your life with a strict discipline.  If your discipline is "I do what I want," then you're chaotic, even if you always do what you want, just as your guiding principle says.  The discipline has to be extended to your relationships with other people -- much in the same way that Devils draw up contracts with mortals.  Bad contracts, yes, but the mortal gets to keep a copy and it's their own problem if they're not smart enough to read through the legalese.That said, had the fighter publicly challenged the offenders to a duel (or duels, I suppose) for their crimes against sentient peoples such that everybody in earshot understood that the basic tenent of "Don't murder people" was still being upheld (inasmuch as they could still walk down a dark alley without taking +4d6 sneak attack damage) and that the forthcoming bloodletting was to resolve a different instance of the basic rule of "don't be a perverted coot."  But that's not what I'm hearing -- I'm hearing that the murders were private and all the public may have found was a body in the backyard and an extra space at the dinner table with no reason given for why.Bear in mind that a critical part of the judicial system (in the US, anyway) is -- supposed to be, anyway -- a public trial such that the public, not just the criminal, judge, and executioner, all understand how the laws of society were broken and how the judgement will bring things closer to order.Hence, for our D&D purposes, I'd have to say that public executions are lawful, private executions are not.::Kaze (is never content just throwing $.02 in...)</blockquote>

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