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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1785211" data-attributes="member: 707">Well said.&nbsp; This is exactly how I treat alignment.&nbsp; As such, I don't even consider shifting a PCs alignment after one atypical action.&nbsp; It's only after enough actions that the atypical seems more like the typical that a shift is warranted.Um...I have no problem understanding your point.&nbsp; I don't need to &quot;try&quot; to understand it.&nbsp; I simply disagree with it.&nbsp; Or rather, I don't believe your view of Lawfulness is exclusive.&nbsp; It's one expression of Lawfulness among several.Let me try and clarify my own point.&nbsp; Consider water.&nbsp; Water is an amazing substance because it's molecules naturally line up with each other.&nbsp; The very nature of water is ordered, moreso than most other substances.Now take a glass of water and spill it on the floor.&nbsp; You'd tell me that the water isn't ordered (Lawful) because its taken on a very chaotic shape as it spreads out over the floor.&nbsp; I'm telling you that even so, the water itself is essentially ordered (Lawful).I'm not saying that a PC cannot express Lawfulness by being law-abiding.&nbsp; This thread has taught me to remember that Lawful, like Good, can mean many things that are each simultaneously true.&nbsp; But Lawfulness can also take place internally, and be Lawful, not Chaotic.Yes, the oil that forms a perfect square on the ground is Ordered.&nbsp; But so is the water that spreads out unevenly, and yet is Ordered in its very substance.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Pendragon, post: 1785211, member: 707"] Well said. This is exactly how I treat alignment. As such, I don't even consider shifting a PCs alignment after one atypical action. It's only after enough actions that the atypical seems more like the typical that a shift is warranted.Um...I have no problem understanding your point. I don't need to "try" to understand it. I simply disagree with it. Or rather, I don't believe your view of Lawfulness is exclusive. It's one expression of Lawfulness among several. Let me try and clarify my own point. Consider water. Water is an amazing substance because it's molecules naturally line up with each other. The very nature of water is ordered, moreso than most other substances. Now take a glass of water and spill it on the floor. You'd tell me that the water isn't ordered (Lawful) because its taken on a very chaotic shape as it spreads out over the floor. I'm telling you that even so, the water itself is essentially ordered (Lawful). I'm not saying that a PC cannot express Lawfulness by being law-abiding. This thread has taught me to remember that Lawful, like Good, can mean many things that are each simultaneously true. But Lawfulness can also take place internally, and be Lawful, not Chaotic. Yes, the oil that forms a perfect square on the ground is Ordered. But so is the water that spreads out unevenly, and yet is Ordered in its very substance. [/QUOTE]

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