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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3309237" data-attributes="member: 3608">I guess I tend to be in favor of social skills. I expect the player to do more than just say "I try to insert skill name" or such. On the other hand, I don't apply modifiers due to roleplaying. I want to encourage roleplaying, but I don't want to judge it. A good charisma/skill means the character was eloquent & subtle even if the player wasn't. Likewise, a low charisma/skill means the character was wooden & blunt even if the player wasn't.Of course, there's a gray area between what the player says & how they say it that can make separating the two less-than-perfect. But I do my best.I'm happy to just use charisma rather than specific skills in my current classic D&D campaign, though.</blockquote>