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<blockquote data-quote="Jacen" data-source="post: 3333501" data-attributes="member: 18654"><p>Congratz... You just make sure that fighter doesn't take any diplomacy or takes just one point and then puts players charisma on the table. And why so? Well +10 means that fighter needs to put 10 levels worh of skillpoints to that. "Small" bonus but totally nullifies interest to invest SPs.</p><p></p><p>So making dplomatic cleric is no good because dummass barbarian can be more effectic diplomat with "roleplaying" player. If PC has 1 or 11 points of SP is big difference. Take 10 is either 11 or 21 and 21 is quite good performance. so by taking 10 and giving "speach" could give a result of 21 to 23 if the more diplomatic PC gets worse player speach. </p><p></p><p>And the same player could get bonus from 2 to 10 depending on DM. Same acting and two different results with two DMs. If I do have a tic for sarcasm and some subtle jokes and DM doesn't like or understand either that means that there aren't any NPC that likes my way of talking. Or inteligence enough to understand the hidden joke that is directed to dumb fighter between two high inteligence mages. DM had a bad day? Bad for you diplomacy... </p><p></p><p>I agree that IC talk adds something to the game, but in my opinion that shouldn't resolve the social skill usage. Well bonus for trying is OK, but it should be 1 or (at max) 2 points. 2 points can mean 4 used skill points and that is much for that int 6 barbarian. </p><p></p><p>I agree too that D&D doesn't have proper resolution for social aspect, but hey - it is mostly hack&slash.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jacen, post: 3333501, member: 18654"] Congratz... You just make sure that fighter doesn't take any diplomacy or takes just one point and then puts players charisma on the table. And why so? Well +10 means that fighter needs to put 10 levels worh of skillpoints to that. "Small" bonus but totally nullifies interest to invest SPs. So making dplomatic cleric is no good because dummass barbarian can be more effectic diplomat with "roleplaying" player. If PC has 1 or 11 points of SP is big difference. Take 10 is either 11 or 21 and 21 is quite good performance. so by taking 10 and giving "speach" could give a result of 21 to 23 if the more diplomatic PC gets worse player speach. And the same player could get bonus from 2 to 10 depending on DM. Same acting and two different results with two DMs. If I do have a tic for sarcasm and some subtle jokes and DM doesn't like or understand either that means that there aren't any NPC that likes my way of talking. Or inteligence enough to understand the hidden joke that is directed to dumb fighter between two high inteligence mages. DM had a bad day? Bad for you diplomacy... I agree that IC talk adds something to the game, but in my opinion that shouldn't resolve the social skill usage. Well bonus for trying is OK, but it should be 1 or (at max) 2 points. 2 points can mean 4 used skill points and that is much for that int 6 barbarian. I agree too that D&D doesn't have proper resolution for social aspect, but hey - it is mostly hack&slash. [/QUOTE]
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