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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 8707818" data-attributes="member: 53980">I thought of a better example to illustrate my meaning.Let's say that I, as a neutral DM, create a setting. I populate this setting with all sorts of interesting and challenging this and that. In one of the towns is a secret death cult devoted to Orcus that is abducting townsfolk and sacrificing them in profane rituals. The cult belongs to a powerful lich, who is off conducting other business at the moment along with his six apprentices. He does check in with the cult periodically, however.The players learn of the death cult's activities and resolve to stop them. Despite being low level, through careful and smart play they succeed in wiping out most of the cult, effectively ending their threat.The next time the lich checks in with the cult, he finds out about this (maybe from a survivor, maybe via divination). It would not be unreasonable for the lich to assemble his apprentices, have them each ready a fireball, and then scry-teleport to the party's location, whereupon the low level party takes 48d6 fire damage (save for half). After all, they destroyed his cult and this sends a message to any future adventurers who might think about getting uppity.However, I don't think that such a course would reasonably fall under that of a neutral DM. IMO, such a DM would be quite clearly a killer DM.</blockquote>