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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7572761" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I gave you the math for it.&nbsp; In a 40 attack adventuring day you on average will convert 68.75% of your misses to hits when using precision attack.&nbsp; You use it when you think you miss by 6 or less.&nbsp; It's a very forgiving skill in that regard.&nbsp; Even if you misjudge and use a dice or 2 per day when you shouldn't or fail to use one or 2 when you should the results won't significantly change.&nbsp; Hunter's mark competes with crossbow expertise bonus action attacks.&nbsp; Just using the bonus action attack with -5/+10 and forgetting about hunter's mark is better in almost every situation.&nbsp; Damage Now &gt; Damage Later.I've used it in a real game.&nbsp; I was the damage king.&nbsp; I've actually used that setup in 2 different games now.&nbsp; It's the same result.&nbsp; When I'm level 5 and open the combat and action surge and hit on 3/5 of my attacks I just did right at 50 damage.&nbsp; My average hit rate usually comes out around 60% (after precision attackand -5/+10 is factored in... effectively at a +6 attack = AC 15 and below I have a 60% or higher chance to hit).&nbsp; I'm only level 5, so most of my opponents are in the 13AC - 18AC range.&nbsp; By round 2 I'll have done about 80 Dmg.&nbsp; If I get lucky I can get that up to nearly 100 if roll a little lucky and get 6 of my total 8 attacks I've made instead of the average 5 to land.&nbsp; When you start a combat at level 5 doing 50 average DPR on turn 1 and follow it up by another 30ish on turn 2...&nbsp; the normal level 5 enemies you fight will die in 1-2 rounds.&nbsp; The ranger doesn't get close to that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7572761, member: 6795602"] I gave you the math for it. In a 40 attack adventuring day you on average will convert 68.75% of your misses to hits when using precision attack. You use it when you think you miss by 6 or less. It's a very forgiving skill in that regard. Even if you misjudge and use a dice or 2 per day when you shouldn't or fail to use one or 2 when you should the results won't significantly change. Hunter's mark competes with crossbow expertise bonus action attacks. Just using the bonus action attack with -5/+10 and forgetting about hunter's mark is better in almost every situation. Damage Now > Damage Later. I've used it in a real game. I was the damage king. I've actually used that setup in 2 different games now. It's the same result. When I'm level 5 and open the combat and action surge and hit on 3/5 of my attacks I just did right at 50 damage. My average hit rate usually comes out around 60% (after precision attackand -5/+10 is factored in... effectively at a +6 attack = AC 15 and below I have a 60% or higher chance to hit). I'm only level 5, so most of my opponents are in the 13AC - 18AC range. By round 2 I'll have done about 80 Dmg. If I get lucky I can get that up to nearly 100 if roll a little lucky and get 6 of my total 8 attacks I've made instead of the average 5 to land. When you start a combat at level 5 doing 50 average DPR on turn 1 and follow it up by another 30ish on turn 2... the normal level 5 enemies you fight will die in 1-2 rounds. The ranger doesn't get close to that. [/QUOTE]

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