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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7572771" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Agreed. For tier 1 I rate it as a better combat cantrip than the wizards firebolt. The bard can use a short bow too, which if he has a good dex can easily match or exceed what the wizard is doing with a firebolt (if you are just looking at damage)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's not bad. You do suffer from limited uses of bardic inspiration in tier 1. It's no where near as good as shield because rolling a 1d6 dice makes even a hit by 2 over your AC have a 33% chance of failure (you would need to roll a 3 or higher). Once you reach level 5 and have short rest recharge bardic inspiration I like it much better.</p><p></p><p>A lot depends for this ability on if the DM shows his rolls or not. If he doesn't show his rolls it might as well be a worthless ability IMO. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The blade defensive flourish helps more with flavor than anything else (at least until you get short rest recharge bardic inspiration dice). You just don't get enough uses of it per day till then to rely on it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>With faerie fire we tend to remember the times it worked. On a solo it has a pretty big miss chance. If it works great, if it doesn't then turn wasted! On smaller enemies they are likely dying in 1-2 hits anyways and sleep would have been much better anyways as it knocked a few of the enemies out of combat immediately and has no save. On larger solo enemies I'd rather have the action denial up front than at the end and so I'd prefer to use tasha's hideous laughter if possible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The subclass abilities and extra spells from arcane recovery go a long way for them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 7572771, member: 6795602"] Agreed. For tier 1 I rate it as a better combat cantrip than the wizards firebolt. The bard can use a short bow too, which if he has a good dex can easily match or exceed what the wizard is doing with a firebolt (if you are just looking at damage) It's not bad. You do suffer from limited uses of bardic inspiration in tier 1. It's no where near as good as shield because rolling a 1d6 dice makes even a hit by 2 over your AC have a 33% chance of failure (you would need to roll a 3 or higher). Once you reach level 5 and have short rest recharge bardic inspiration I like it much better. A lot depends for this ability on if the DM shows his rolls or not. If he doesn't show his rolls it might as well be a worthless ability IMO. The blade defensive flourish helps more with flavor than anything else (at least until you get short rest recharge bardic inspiration dice). You just don't get enough uses of it per day till then to rely on it. With faerie fire we tend to remember the times it worked. On a solo it has a pretty big miss chance. If it works great, if it doesn't then turn wasted! On smaller enemies they are likely dying in 1-2 hits anyways and sleep would have been much better anyways as it knocked a few of the enemies out of combat immediately and has no save. On larger solo enemies I'd rather have the action denial up front than at the end and so I'd prefer to use tasha's hideous laughter if possible. The subclass abilities and extra spells from arcane recovery go a long way for them. [/QUOTE]
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