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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JohnnyZemo" data-source="post: 7717431" data-attributes="member: 6681515">Ehhh... I don't think anyone who has played Out of the Abyss would agree with you. (I've DM'ed all the adventures you mention as well as Out of the Abyss.) Yes, the start is similar to A4, but the Maze Engine and the Demonweb are nothing alike. Saying that the adventures are alike because they both include dark lakes is like saying that all adventures that take place in a forest are the same. Lolth is very important to D1-3 and Q1, and (spoilers) she is only a background force in Out of the Abyss. Out of the Abyss is all about demon lords and Underdark weirdness. (The weirdness is what led to the early, somewhat confusing, comparisons to Alice in Wonderland.) Nothing in Out of the Abyss is like Q1.And honestly, published adventures have changed so much in the 30+ years between the two that they read like totally different animals. The D series is mostly a big map with some fixed encounters and a lot of random encounters. Almost all of the encounter areas are sketched out in a sentence or two. There is one overarching plotline, but it is extremely straightforward.Out of the Abyss has so much more detail in every way that the parts that overlap with the D series feel totally different. And if you really want to get picky, there is no kuo-toa city in the D series, just a big temple (and the main focus of the middle section of the adventure). In Out of the Abyss, there is a kuo-toa town. It's an important plot point, but only a small part of the overall adventure.Anyway, having run both, I find them very different.</blockquote>

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