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<blockquote data-quote="Mercule" data-source="post: 7715289" data-attributes="member: 5100"><p>So, complete disclosure: I want something other than FR published so that the "FR is the setting supported because it's the only setting people buy" thing doesn't become (any more of) a self-fulfilling prophecy. If no other setting gets shelf space, there never will be brand new players clamoring for anything besides the Realms. For that matter, there aren't any brand new players calling for Forgotten Realms, either. By that logic, WotC shouldn't have released SCAG, nor should they be using the Realms for adventures.</p><p></p><p>The whole "your old books still work" argument is a farce. The same is true of the Realms. There's no need to release any new Realms content. There's no need to bake it into every single adventure. In 3E, Greyhawk was officially the default setting. I just looked at the 3E AP (<u>Standing Stone</u>, specifically) and there's almost no Greyhawk content in it. No mention of any "Factions" in the story hooks. Minimal placement in the setting. You could run it anywhere. Why do the 5E adventures have more setting-specific info? I'm not saying that no adventures should be setting-specific. Just that things like putting Five Factions hooks into <u>Curse of Strahd</u> sucks.</p><p></p><p>Putting <u>Princes of the Apocalypse</u> in the Realms was pointless, other than to promote the Realms. Yes, Tharzidun can attack multiple prime worlds, but he wasn't included. It was just another uprising of the same old cults that would have been at least as well served by putting it in the original setting.</p><p></p><p>FR isn't "first among equals" or the only setting being published because it's being requested. FR is being confused with "the D&D brand" and it's being done intentionally because WotC is aggressively trying to expand beyond the table top and they see the Realms as being the most marketable setting. Personally, I think that's not the best move and it weakens the other D&D-related IP (Eberron, Ravenloft, Krynn, etc.). </p><p></p><p>Go ahead and put out a Forgotten Realms movie. Just don't call it a D&D movie (at least not in gigantic print) because that kind of closes off the option for an Eberron (for example) movie, later, because folks will be wondering where Drizzt is and why the heroes are riding on a train.</p><p></p><p>Really, what I'd hoped for, when they said they weren't going to do any setting books (including the Realms, initially) was that they might rotate through several of the settings for the AL seasons. So, Tyranny of Dragons is a double-length season and showcases the Realms. Then do PotA in Greyhawk. Return to the Realms with OotA. Do Ravenloft with CoS. Back to the Realms with SKT. Move on to an Eberron book. Etc. I'd even cycle through at least some of the Realms adventures (ToD was just bad, regardless of setting), and would be super excited both to have quality adventures for settings I love (Eberron, Greyhawk, Ravenloft) and well as take guided tours of those I never got around to using much (Dark Sun, Planescape).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercule, post: 7715289, member: 5100"] So, complete disclosure: I want something other than FR published so that the "FR is the setting supported because it's the only setting people buy" thing doesn't become (any more of) a self-fulfilling prophecy. If no other setting gets shelf space, there never will be brand new players clamoring for anything besides the Realms. For that matter, there aren't any brand new players calling for Forgotten Realms, either. By that logic, WotC shouldn't have released SCAG, nor should they be using the Realms for adventures. The whole "your old books still work" argument is a farce. The same is true of the Realms. There's no need to release any new Realms content. There's no need to bake it into every single adventure. In 3E, Greyhawk was officially the default setting. I just looked at the 3E AP ([U]Standing Stone[/U], specifically) and there's almost no Greyhawk content in it. No mention of any "Factions" in the story hooks. Minimal placement in the setting. You could run it anywhere. Why do the 5E adventures have more setting-specific info? I'm not saying that no adventures should be setting-specific. Just that things like putting Five Factions hooks into [U]Curse of Strahd[/U] sucks. Putting [U]Princes of the Apocalypse[/U] in the Realms was pointless, other than to promote the Realms. Yes, Tharzidun can attack multiple prime worlds, but he wasn't included. It was just another uprising of the same old cults that would have been at least as well served by putting it in the original setting. FR isn't "first among equals" or the only setting being published because it's being requested. FR is being confused with "the D&D brand" and it's being done intentionally because WotC is aggressively trying to expand beyond the table top and they see the Realms as being the most marketable setting. Personally, I think that's not the best move and it weakens the other D&D-related IP (Eberron, Ravenloft, Krynn, etc.). Go ahead and put out a Forgotten Realms movie. Just don't call it a D&D movie (at least not in gigantic print) because that kind of closes off the option for an Eberron (for example) movie, later, because folks will be wondering where Drizzt is and why the heroes are riding on a train. Really, what I'd hoped for, when they said they weren't going to do any setting books (including the Realms, initially) was that they might rotate through several of the settings for the AL seasons. So, Tyranny of Dragons is a double-length season and showcases the Realms. Then do PotA in Greyhawk. Return to the Realms with OotA. Do Ravenloft with CoS. Back to the Realms with SKT. Move on to an Eberron book. Etc. I'd even cycle through at least some of the Realms adventures (ToD was just bad, regardless of setting), and would be super excited both to have quality adventures for settings I love (Eberron, Greyhawk, Ravenloft) and well as take guided tours of those I never got around to using much (Dark Sun, Planescape). [/QUOTE]
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