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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 8074269" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I'm not sure I understand your point. I was just looking at 4e surges a few days ago, and you could spend surges during a short rest (just like 5e) and recovered them on a long rest (just like 5e) There are only three differences I can find. 1) You had more surges. Which was really more of a by-product of the next point2) Surges were spent when you were healed. Which, there is good and bad here. On one hand, as I think you mean, a cleric's spell let you spend your own surge, instead of being an outside healing factor. Or drinking a potion did. But, on the other hand, you never got "more" effective hp by adding a cleric, it only allowed you to have easier access to your hp. This was balanced by the idea of the cleric also doing damage, buffing ect while healing. 3) Surges were a static value, and this is something I miss so much. I cannot tell you how many times I have seen people get frustrated over low rolls from cure wounds, healing potions, or even short rests. You can burn an extra two or three dice just from the fact that you rolled 1's on the die and didn't recover nearly enough HP. And, static values would go a long way towards making healing more viable. I've got a few DMs who have ruled potions just give max value, and we might even start letting you take the average of your HD, just to help balance things out.</blockquote>