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The new D&D Core: The "80/100" rule
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<blockquote data-quote="Crazy Jerome" data-source="post: 5776559" data-attributes="member: 54877"><p>Using an 80% rule is often a good idea, but you have to be more flexible in its application than using it on a single axis--80% of the fans want X.</p><p> </p><p>For example, if there is a piece that fails to meet that threshold, maybe doesn't hit 50%--but it is critical for allowing people to swap some other option where there is wide-spread and divergent disagreement--then it probably has to go in. The piece isn't something that most people want, but its the best way to give almost everyone what they want for some <strong>other</strong> piece. </p><p> </p><p>Then there is scope of the question, where initially you may get something close to 50/50 diametrically opposed preferences. Vancian magic in or out? That's phrasing the question wrong--it is self-defeating. For something that critical, you'd need a whole series of more detailed questions to successfully apply the 80% rule to fan input--starting with who would be ok with some Vancian magic, as long as they can ignore it, and vice versa. </p><p> </p><p>Or put another way, using the 80% rule successfully means that if 80%+ are ok with something, you can probably include it more or less as is. But if a sizable number (even around 25%), but less than 80% want something, then you'll need to follow up to determine why, and find out if there is way to reframe/partition/rework/etc. that will bring at least some of it up to higher acceptance--especially if you need this thing to make something else work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crazy Jerome, post: 5776559, member: 54877"] Using an 80% rule is often a good idea, but you have to be more flexible in its application than using it on a single axis--80% of the fans want X. For example, if there is a piece that fails to meet that threshold, maybe doesn't hit 50%--but it is critical for allowing people to swap some other option where there is wide-spread and divergent disagreement--then it probably has to go in. The piece isn't something that most people want, but its the best way to give almost everyone what they want for some [B]other[/B] piece. Then there is scope of the question, where initially you may get something close to 50/50 diametrically opposed preferences. Vancian magic in or out? That's phrasing the question wrong--it is self-defeating. For something that critical, you'd need a whole series of more detailed questions to successfully apply the 80% rule to fan input--starting with who would be ok with some Vancian magic, as long as they can ignore it, and vice versa. Or put another way, using the 80% rule successfully means that if 80%+ are ok with something, you can probably include it more or less as is. But if a sizable number (even around 25%), but less than 80% want something, then you'll need to follow up to determine why, and find out if there is way to reframe/partition/rework/etc. that will bring at least some of it up to higher acceptance--especially if you need this thing to make something else work. [/QUOTE]
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