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Message: <blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 2969217" data-attributes="member: 7859">I'm not agreeing with the cry and the contention here.  Focus in monsters is a good thing in my opinion.  First off, the online web articles are Mike being allowed to play, they are not official.I like the changes to the Rust Monster.  Mike nailed it right on the head, the Rust Monster is supposed to be an encounter and NOT THE GAME STOPPING THING THAT IT IS.  I doubt the point of an adventure is to stop the terrible Rust Monster from eating Home Depot...but to stop the evil priest before completing the Ritual of Doom and so forth.  A Rust Monster's power to destroy Ferrous items, including Magic Items, means it is more a menance to high level groups than low.  If I as 2nd level character lose my Longsword and my Banded Mail to the Rust Monster...it sucks, it is inconvienet....but the next humanoid we kill will probably yield replacements,(and it the wildly different dungeon design build of many 1e monsters entirely likely).  However as an 8th level character, how upset as a player am I going to be when a bad save results in the Mithral Large Spiked shield the player used Armor Smithing skills to create, and had his Druid partymate enchanct with Craft Arms/and Armor.  As a DM, I am loath to destroy cherised magic items on a monster that is nothing more than an encounter, and not likely to be a plot point...especially as in my campaign at least 1/3 of the players loot is self created, and I do not throw a lot or "replacement" or "upgrade" items randomly into treasure hordes.  Items are important in any game, but the damage a Rust Monster does  in destroying magic items is incalculably more destructive than mere hit points to high level players.  Lets face it many players would rather die and be raised than lose a magic item.The Ogre Magi is poorely designed.  I have used the MM1 Ogre Magi as a CR 5 creature, that is what it's HP really peg it at, and let me tell you, using the Cone of Cold was scary, TPK with a good roll scary, it is realisticaly too much against a 5th level party.  The creature can use some tweaking.  Mearls, made a nice Ogre Ninja, and I would use that creature, but it needs some charming power.The CR system I think is fine for non combat abilities as well, just keep the the abilities in line.  CR becomes a measure of what "the roll needs to be".  A Diplomat adversary might only have 4 HP, but Might have a Bluff Modifier +10 against a 3rd level party for a CR 3 encounter...as challenging as an Ogre but in a different way.</blockquote>

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