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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 2971554" data-attributes="member: 23977">Definitely not the 2e book. I will look again tonight. They might have? I was never a huge fan of the OM to begin with. Just never fit in with my games I guess. My point about the lair filled with slaves was that since the MM mentioned you'd find them in remote areas... it makes me think of this OM living in a cave decked out in elegence stolen from humans with drugged up (charmed) slave women around him at his beck and call... (almost like that scene at the begining of The Shadow... But replace Alec Baldwin (what HE done lately???) with an Ogre Mage...)But that's what *I* saw... which is the thing about flavor text... it can be wildly different from one person to the next, which is why I can't dissagree with a redesign based on my visualization of a monster.  (Kind of like when I see a movie based on a book I've read.)The New (unofficial) OM doesn't really match the flavor I had in my head either but that's the point. That doesn't invalidate the new monster at all. Mr Mearls was showing us what an OM would look like if he designed it today. Maybe HE always envisioned the thing as a leader among Ogres, and therefore that's why intimidation made more sense then Charm... Which brings me to...I can agree that a discussion of how to play the monster distinctive from other similar monsters is a good idea. To a degree. I'd rather not see people feel as if they're being forced into a particular concept of flavor, but a suggested role would be cool...As for the stats, I think there definitely SHOULD be a big focus on the stats. The numbers and math problems are the essesnce of the "game" aspect of the game. The flavor is what everyone else adds to it. I'm not a fan of removing all fluff at all. I love it, and pull ideas from it, but again, since flavor is so wildly different from one person to the next, the thing I need the deigners doing is tinkering with the actual math and rules to make sure things work fairly, and cut down on all the silly "That doesn't make sense!" arguments in the game...</blockquote>

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