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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 2973207" data-attributes="member: 22779">Please reread what I wrote.&nbsp; The fighter is FOUR levels below the party.&nbsp; While what you are saying makes sense, it in no way actually relates to what I wrote.Catch up?&nbsp; From FOUR levels down?&nbsp; Note, the 2e fighter NEVER got a save throw at all, never mind any buffs to help him.&nbsp; Considering I can only gain one level at a time and I have to train each time, how in the heck am I going to catch up a four level deficit?&nbsp; Remember, this was from TWO hits.&nbsp; That's it.&nbsp; The creature hit me twice.Three encounters a day is RUSHING?&nbsp; I've been told time and again that in earlier editions, people went through far more than 3/day.But, the problem isn't stopping progress in a dungeon crawl.&nbsp; It's completely screwing over one player.&nbsp; The character will never recover from this.&nbsp; The character will spend the next several sessions being babysat by the rest of the party.&nbsp; The rest of the party gets to have the added burden of not only being a man down, but having to cart around dead weight for the next four levels just to get our example fighter BACK to where he started from.IME, it takes about 3-5 sessions to gain a level.&nbsp; Hell, we'll say that they are rocketing and going 2/session.&nbsp; That means it takes me TWO MONTHS to get back to where I started.&nbsp; Not advance, but just get back.&nbsp; Meanwhile, the rest of the group is one or two or three levels higher (depending on their class), so I'm still in the hole.This is good game design?&nbsp; Are you kidding?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 2973207, member: 22779"] Please reread what I wrote. The fighter is FOUR levels below the party. While what you are saying makes sense, it in no way actually relates to what I wrote. Catch up? From FOUR levels down? Note, the 2e fighter NEVER got a save throw at all, never mind any buffs to help him. Considering I can only gain one level at a time and I have to train each time, how in the heck am I going to catch up a four level deficit? Remember, this was from TWO hits. That's it. The creature hit me twice. Three encounters a day is RUSHING? I've been told time and again that in earlier editions, people went through far more than 3/day. But, the problem isn't stopping progress in a dungeon crawl. It's completely screwing over one player. The character will never recover from this. The character will spend the next several sessions being babysat by the rest of the party. The rest of the party gets to have the added burden of not only being a man down, but having to cart around dead weight for the next four levels just to get our example fighter BACK to where he started from. IME, it takes about 3-5 sessions to gain a level. Hell, we'll say that they are rocketing and going 2/session. That means it takes me TWO MONTHS to get back to where I started. Not advance, but just get back. Meanwhile, the rest of the group is one or two or three levels higher (depending on their class), so I'm still in the hole. This is good game design? Are you kidding? [/QUOTE]

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