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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 2975292" data-attributes="member: 2067">I just noticed something about the 3.5 Command spell:Nowhere does it say that these are the only options, or that other options are prohibited. It doesn't say certain commands are disallowed or not applicable. All it does is describe the general effect (give a single command) and then give a few specific instances of that command.People are interpreting limitations where there are none. Nothing says that other commands can't be used. So they can. They just require that all-famous DM judgement call. Which Command as a spell required in general anyway. As for the "If it ain't broke" crowd, I'll give you a few things to chew on:1 - It is broke. D&D needs to compete with other things that sieze your gaming dollar. If nothing was changed, it would not survive, and that means it is malfunctioning.2 - A rusty jalopy may run, but if you want a Ferrari, it's not going to satisfy you.3 - Change is inevitable. D&D will adapt or die.There are ways to model out-of-combat abilities that don't rely on spells, magic, or leet ninja super abilities. Heck, a bonus to Diplomacy or Intimidate can do the work of Charm Person more than half the time. In the case of the Ogre Mage, Charm would clutter the list, while giving it a high Intimidate bonus would make sense. There is also the idea that what a monster is capable in outside of combat is "whatever the DM wants it to be capable of." There don't nessecarily need to be mechanical abilities for monsters to turn the tide outside of combat, because the DM will set them up in any way that makes sense for their campaign.SLA's are not the best place for out-of-combat monster abilities. How many charm SLA's does a Mind Flayer have? How many campaigns have been run where the Mind Flayer has loyal mental zombie-slaves?</blockquote>

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