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Message: <blockquote data-quote="StAlda" data-source="post: 4737994" data-attributes="member: 16745">Great, you wouldn't play, thanks, anything constructive?  With your logic a druid who wild shapes into a tiger should have a massive negative to hit and damage (since they would not have first hand knowledge of how a tiger attacks)Please do not reply to this thread if your main point is wild shape is no big deal, that I'm doing something wrong or you wouldn't play in my game. (please read the forum title)Well, less so about the "wild shape is no big deal", if you post a new perspective of the ability.Moving on.Where in any folklore is a druid primarily a shapeshifter?  That is what the new druid is DEFINED as - his defining ability is wild shape.  And since we have already had the debate about powers only work in combat vs. powers work anytime - I think we all appreciate the other camps perspective.  The perspective of this writer is that they do work all the time and that is why I find it overpowered as an at-will minor action power for a 0xp character.  Saying you have to have wild shape because of all the powers is like saying we had to build cars because of all the roads.  The power gap can be filled.Just thinking out loud (or through the keyboard), I guess I will ban the Druid as written and create a new class called Celtic Druid that is based on the classic druid folklore and older D&D editions.  Can you say druidic beast companion?</blockquote>