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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Sessadore" data-source="post: 4290559" data-attributes="member: 57255">Your example has some slight flaws.&nbsp; You need a special license to drive a truck - the license is the feat, the truck is the heavy armor.&nbsp; Now, you need a third level - you need to take a special course and pass it to get the license - that is your feat prereqs.&nbsp; To model the class armor proficiencies:&nbsp; your country passes a law saying people from Southern Bigtown (fighters) get the special license for free without having to take the course - you gain the proficiency without having to spend a feat.&nbsp; Since you are from Southern Bigtown, once your shiny new license arrives, you start driving your new truck.&nbsp; Policeman pulls you over - the proper charge (or whatever) would be that you did not pass the course to get the special license.&nbsp; To which you point to the law and say &quot;I'm from Southern Bigtown, I get it by default!&quot;&nbsp; Policeman has to go away <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Granted, I'm using the example to my advantage, but the only part that makes the example work my way is &quot;... get the special license for free without having to take the course&quot;.&nbsp; In your version, it would probably be &quot;... get the special license for free.&quot;&nbsp; In which case, you still get to say, &quot;They gave it to me!&nbsp; It's not my fault!&nbsp; Blame the gov't.&quot;&nbsp; and requires the policeman to call in and get a check done to see if you've enrolled in and passed the course to get the special license before letting you go or ticketing you.&nbsp; Shouldn't the license be the proof of having the qualifications?&nbsp; In fact, isn't the license the qualifications itself?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lord Sessadore, post: 4290559, member: 57255"] Your example has some slight flaws. You need a special license to drive a truck - the license is the feat, the truck is the heavy armor. Now, you need a third level - you need to take a special course and pass it to get the license - that is your feat prereqs. To model the class armor proficiencies: your country passes a law saying people from Southern Bigtown (fighters) get the special license for free without having to take the course - you gain the proficiency without having to spend a feat. Since you are from Southern Bigtown, once your shiny new license arrives, you start driving your new truck. Policeman pulls you over - the proper charge (or whatever) would be that you did not pass the course to get the special license. To which you point to the law and say "I'm from Southern Bigtown, I get it by default!" Policeman has to go away :) Granted, I'm using the example to my advantage, but the only part that makes the example work my way is "... get the special license for free without having to take the course". In your version, it would probably be "... get the special license for free." In which case, you still get to say, "They gave it to me! It's not my fault! Blame the gov't." and requires the policeman to call in and get a check done to see if you've enrolled in and passed the course to get the special license before letting you go or ticketing you. Shouldn't the license be the proof of having the qualifications? In fact, isn't the license the qualifications itself? [/QUOTE]

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