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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 4907297" data-attributes="member: 5202">Well he became the God of Strife, Death, Secrets, and whatever else he got from otehr gods he killed or out-did in the case of Mask.  He really was doing what he was supposed to do for his portoflio, which was the entire point of the Trial of Cyric the Mad novel.  Mystra letting her personal feelings from when she was a mortal color her actions and causing her to upset the balance.  Cyric trying to kill every other god by making the Cyrinishad is something else entirely and the gods should have just teamed up to smack him down and say no, b/c having only one god in that setting would have screwed balance completely.  He was not a nice guy tho when a mortal and unfortunately the novels seem to take him from unhappy with how his life is turning out to turning on his allies and trying to kill them extremely quickly.  They aren't considered great books for a reason, altho I do have a certain love for them heh.My memory jibes with Henry's on this.  3 and out was always the advertised plan.  They said that the Realms ahd the possibility for other products down the line if they felt they were needed, but it would be a wait and see kind of thing.Part of the reason the Eberron book is as good as it is is most likely WotC learning from their mistakes w/the 4E FRCS.  I was personally excited to hear they were skipping things forward so much and making the changes they were.  Yeah it's another edition change so alter the game like Time of Troubles was, but we've already seen novels with people trying to survive in the period right after major upheavals.  Skip forward 100 years, let the super NPCs largely die off and leave the world fresh.  In the 2E days the huge amount of source material was immersing, altho toward the end of 2E, with Volo's endless series of guides (I mean, how did we not have Outhouses of Waterdeep by the end?) and other books detailing the setting to such minute levels, we had so much material it was getting overwhelming and hard to find an area of the world you could set things in and not have some super-pedantic player hard endlessly about how "that whole area has had blah blah" and "Didn't you read X book last month?  The king is dead, how could he be giving us all orders!?".  Yes the easy answer w/those people is to say that what hapens in the novels doesn't happen in your games, but it's still irritating.I also agree that rebooting FR back to the grey box would not happen.  The Dark Sun reboot doesn't even really invalidate the novels, as they are already saying that if you would still like to have the results of the Prism Pentad happen in your game you can, but re-doing the FR and turning time back 20 years or so would have invalidated literally HUNDREDS of novels.  Novels sell more than game books, simple fact of life.  There are times I've been pretty sure the novel lines were what kept D&D afloat, much like the GBA and DS did Nintendo for awhile.  A lot of those novels were built based on publications TSR/WotC was going to have coming out, so if you roll things back to say those haven't happened you have invalidated a lot of stuff.I do have to say I'm a fan of 3 and out tho.  It means I can afford to pick up every setting produced by WotC and not strain my budget.  2 kids means less gaming books <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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